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August 07, 2006

Nachos With Juan Cole

What kind of nachos would one eat with Juan Cole, if given the opportunity? Dennis has the answer, here.

Oh, also—besides the nachos, both Dennis and Professor Cole have some opinions about current events.

Posted at August 7, 2006 04:34 PM | TrackBack
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Invasion of Lebanon= Invasion of Syria= Invasion of Iran= A world of shit here.
I'm guessing Omert sees South Lebanon as the new Palestinian State. Conquer and relocate---Problem solved. (aparently NO-ONE is able to learn from past mistakes, not in the 21 century.)

Posted by: Mike Meyer at August 7, 2006 06:49 PM

Ah yes the New Middle East that is what we are already hearing in fact I heard Condi warble that little ditty just the other day. My goodness what a fine sound that has, the New Middle East, it rings like the liberty bell freedom.

We need to be wary of those definitions because words from the mouths of new cons do not match up with what you find in the dictionary in fact I am waiting for the first edition of the neocon dictionary so that I can fully comprehend their neo language.

"For the Power of man to make himself what he pleases means, as we have seen, the power of some men to make other men what THEY please."

--C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

And nothing could be clearer than the United States and Israel are pleased to make Arabs subjects of the realm, our realm that is. After we beat the Arab world senseless no doubt they will welcome us with open arms, flowers and cotton candy and thus all prophesies shall come to pass.

But if this be true that the long range goal is to topple Iran than the plot must be thicker than we think because this would have to be a long range goal. We have already squandered our money and military in Iraq to the point of no return so how then will imperial America defeat Iran? And what of China who has interests in Iranian oil as well. China is rapidly evolving into an industrial giant with its eyes on the prize. What will China do if we attack Iran next? Maybe something, maybe nothing since China already has a huge economic interest in American consumers as in cash cows.

It just may be that the worst fate in this modern world is to be a small and mostly defenseless country sitting atop a sea of oil. It would be like a person that fell overboard into a sea full of great white sharks that have not eaten a thing for a month of Sundays.

Posted by: rob payne at August 7, 2006 08:21 PM

Problem for the war planners is that you can't get to Iran. The game is up. The Chinese and the Russians and everyone else are well aware of the plan at this point, and there's a million soft spots to hit US and Israeli interest worldwide without it being a dramatic terrorist action. Even the English have had enough of the Bush/Cheney madhouse of ineptitude.

Take the shut down of Prudhoe Bay by BP. This is a giant middle finger pointed right at the administration, and the beginning of an international action against the US that will ramp up faster than the PNAC proposed miltary action. The more the administration pushes this Middle East BS the more the domestic economic pain will register between now and November, and hence the more dramatic the turnover of power from republican hands.

Domestically everyone is looking to Leiberman-Lamont as the canary. The real canary was the dunning letter from Iranian president printed in the Wall Street Journal. The international and smart money domestic investors in the Bush/Cheney startup are pulling the plug, and the action from BP is just a friendly margin call in comparison to the amount of pain future pig headedness by the administration will cost.

My view: its time to short sell Kagan/Krauthammer crowd. You can have all the ambition in the world and the greatest vision statement ever created, but with half assed execution and personnel valued more for loyalty than excellence you get bubkus.

Posted by: patience at August 7, 2006 08:21 PM

...ah, now I'm jealous and feel even MORE alone.

Posted by: Darryl Pearce at August 7, 2006 09:45 PM

Patience, this link is one you will enjoy immensely I know I did. William Kristol gets his just desserts. Heh, heh.

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20060807_greenwald_neocon_policy_rip/


However the bad news is half the country still thinks Iraq had WMD. Not a good sign.

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20060807_iraq_wmd_poll/

People tend to become “independent of reality” in these circumstances, says opinion analyst Steven Kull.

"I'm flabbergasted," said Michael Massing, a media critic whose writings dissected the largely unquestioning U.S. news reporting on the Bush administration's shaky WMD claims in 2002-03.

"This finding just has to cause despair among those of us who hope for an informed public able to draw reasonable conclusions based on evidence," Massing said.


Posted by: rob payne at August 7, 2006 10:55 PM

Rob % Patience:
The mistake in Your thinking is you've added reason and commonsense into the equation. GREED AND STUPIDITY don't need no commonsense, don't need no reason. So, therefore, it all fits nicely into the existing foreign policy. Israel WILL do as they are told and paid to do, Congress WILL increase the Debt limits and taxes on the middle class, and the working poor and sure enough poor WILL be DRAFTED. If I'm wrong then ,by all means, please, tell me when this administration acted like they had ONE COMPLETE THOUGHT among the whole bunch.
Darryl Pearce:
Damn, I know what you mean.

Posted by: Mike Meyer at August 7, 2006 10:59 PM

Jonathan,

The choice of chicken nachos is true genius considering they discussed the policies of war-mongering chicken-hawks. However, their intellect is in question here, not to mention gourmet savvy. Was that really a picture of a lemon slice in the ale? The thought of putting a slice of lemon in my Guinness makes me want to puke, much the same as I feel when I see Bush and Company prancing before the cameras purporting their hideous lies as fact, committing war crimes with so much putrid 'song and dance'.... Hey, wait a minute! I get it, now! Quite the appropriate accompanying libation and true geniuses afterall! In the words of Julia Child: "Bon Appetite!"

Posted by: americanintifada at August 8, 2006 01:46 AM

Mexicans (north and south) suffer from a similar malady, in their case, beer+citrus=nectar. Sick people, and unfortunately, one of my adult daughters is to be found in their ranks. She will not drink a beer until she has squashed a half lemon or lime into the can.

On nachos: real mean leave chickens and all their works to lesser humans. A real nacho, for real men and their ladies, is made by placing, on a baked (not fried) chip, a quantity of a decent, melted yellow cheese, a slice or two of fresh jalapeno, and topped with a cilantro leaf.

On Israel and all her works. Shame on you. When you need aggression to justifity your existence,
the dustbin of history beckons.

On Juan and Dennis, I hope you have had, or have, a bunch of babies.

Posted by: Jesus B. Ochoa at August 8, 2006 07:16 AM

Praise Jesus! (or is that Praise Cheeses?)

My wife has become severely depressed at what's happening in Lebanon because she has friends over there that have not been heard from or seen since the new War started. She refuses to watch TV now and won't let me watch it either. She tries to take her mind off everything bad on TV by resorting to sexual perversions that I didn't know existed. Yesterday she made a giant vat of cheese, stripped me naked, dipped me in it like fondue and then ordered me to run around the house singing "Nacho, nacho man! I wanna be a nacho man!" Help me, Jesus! I'm starting to enjoy war!

Posted by: americanintifada at August 8, 2006 07:40 AM

Regarding the lemon:

Apparently, Hefeweizen ale is always served with a lemon wedge (as seen in the photo at me blog). Hefeweizen, as you may know, is a sweet, citrus-y drink, and the lemon adds a bit of tartness to the taste. For the record, Juan and I both removed the lemon from the pint glass edge and enjoyed the Hefeweizen on its own terms.

I do undestand why someone would add a lemon or lime to a beer like Corona. Anything to bolster that drab, watery brew.

Posted by: Dennis Perrin at August 8, 2006 07:52 AM

I prefer Hay-sus. Damn, I wish I had had me at least one wife, somewhere along the way, who had dipped me in a giant vat of cheese and made of me a proper nacho man.

Corona, like Coors (rocky mountain kool aid) is not beer. It is reputed to be bottled lobster piss.

For a good south of the border beer (without lemon but plenty of nachos) a negra modelo is hard to beat. Heavy and Dark.

Posted by: Jesus B. Ochoa at August 8, 2006 10:24 AM

Mmmmm... nachos. Marinated chicken, grilled, pluse refried beans thinned down with milk, fresh salsa and a little guacamole.

Posted by: Maezeppa at August 8, 2006 01:19 PM

Hey-sus!

I was raised behind the Orange Curtain in Southern California which has always had a majority of Hispanics, much to the chagrin of that super-fascist John Wayne crowd down there. I am very aware of the correct pronunciation and am sorry to take liberties with your name, but the joke wouldn't work otherwise. I would mis-pronounce my own mother's name trying to get a cheap laugh. Nyuk, nyuk! Unfortunately my vocabulary in Espanol is limited to the phrase "Cuanto questa una bolsa de mota?" It goes quite nicely with my Negra Modelo!

Posted by: americanintifada at August 8, 2006 11:58 PM

Mota here, mota there, mota mota everywhere - wow, them golden days!

Posted by: Jesus B. Ochoa at August 9, 2006 12:11 AM

Golden days they were, too! Straight from Acapulco and Oaxaca for 85 dollars a kilo! 4 finger lids for 10 bucks, even for this Gabacho. None of you young punks know what I mean, but the old-timers do! Si-Mon!

Posted by: americanintifada at August 9, 2006 12:46 AM

El Burro sabbe mas qui tu.

Posted by: Mike Meyer at August 9, 2006 10:52 AM