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October 16, 2006
I Have A Question
A year ago I remember somebody (Joe Trippi?) was working on an ideaâ€â€Âthat progressives would raise $100 million online and then give it to a presidential candidate who was willing to commit to a simple, clear platform. Obviously this would give a huge incentive to somebody to actually run on progressive ideas.
But...I haven't heard anything about this since. Maybe I just haven't been listening. But if no one is doing it, somebody should, starting RIGHT NOW.
So does anyone know what's going on? I'm assuming the platform would be something like this:
1. Out of Iraq
2. Health care for all
3. Fair trade, not free trade
4. Energy independence/Stop global warming
Posted at October 16, 2006 04:18 PM | TrackBackHow about no more pre-emptive war? We only attack in self defense. After all, it is called the Department of Defense.
Posted by: SPIIDERWEB™ at October 16, 2006 04:50 PMPersonally, I'd like to see the Constitution restored. Right away.
I know the idea is to avoid a complicated laundry list, but there need to be a couple of structural planks to make this more than a flash in the pan:
5. Public campaign financing.
6. Eliminate restrictions on labor organizing.
Posted by: Nell at October 16, 2006 07:04 PM1. Wars for self-defense only, and passed by Congress only. (that would take care of out of Iraq).
2. Restore the Constitution
3. Save the environment/energy conservation/stop global warming
4. term limits & public financing of campaigns
5. no more white guys elected
(okay, I'm just joking on the last one)
Posted by: Susan at October 16, 2006 07:38 PMWhat happened to Trippi's idea? Don't worry. It'll be revived when the Democrats want to sucker the folks who would otherwise vote third party back into the tent with another faux populist (like Dean).
Posted by: Lloyd at October 16, 2006 08:42 PMJonathan S.,
I see poll after poll ask
"who would handle [thing x] better, the democrats or the republicans?"
The fascinating (and maddening) thing about the non-specificity of this tired question is that it:
reinforces the views of both,
democrats who think that avoiding defining themselves is best,
and those who want democrats to start talking specifics.
Posted by: Jonathan Versen at October 16, 2006 09:26 PMJohn Edwards wants to do away with free trade agreements
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0218-02.htm
John Edwards wants to pull out of Iraq
http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2006/08/05/john_edwards_calls_for_immediate_withdrawal_from_iraq/
Whoops, John Edwards voted to de-fund renewable and solar energy programs. Oh well you cannot win them all.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2004/John_Edwards_Energy_+_Oil.htm
John Edwards wants universal health care.
http://www.themonitor.com/SiteProcessor.cfm?Template=/GlobalTemplates/Details.cfm&StoryID=13326&Section=Local
Three out of four is not too bad.
Hillary Clinton a mixed bag on free trade agreements.
Voted yes on Oman free trade, is for on free trade with china and Chili but not with Andean countries and she voted no on CAFTA
http://www.ontheissues.org/International/Hillary_Clinton_Free_Trade.htm
Hillary Clinton is not for universal health care rather is more worried about undermining health insurance as we know it via this NPR interview, just click the listen button.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1840383
Hillary loves Iraq and wants us to stay with what she calls phased redeployment.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ideas_opinions/story/460752p-387658c.html
"There are certain groups of the Iraqis that will fight, but the vast majority of the 350,000 are not prepared to stand up and fight for Iraq. They might stand up and fight for their tribe or for their family or for their religious affiliation. And that's not going to change unless they have to face the reality that, guess what, we are going to start, what we call, in the Democratic alternative, a phased redeployment.
Now, that doesn't mean initially, out of Iraq. It could be just moving to the North, because I do think we have an extra obligation to the Kurds not to desert them once again. It could certainly mean just over the horizon in Kuwait. But what we've been doing is not working."
But Hillary is for alternative energy.
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/sep2006/2006-09-15-09.asp
One out of three is not too good.
If you trust this CNN poll from last month Hillary is looking like the front runner for democrats in 2008. Read them and weep.
Hilllary at 37 percent
Al Gore 20 percent
John Edwards 11 percent
John Kerry at 11 percent
Rest of the rabble 3, 2 and 1 percent.
http://www.2004dnc.com/2008presidentialelection/
This is why I hesitate to indulge in fantasies because they lead to so much disappointment and despair. On the bright side 2008 is two years away and a lot can happen and I think it really is too early to say who will win the nomination and if we are lucky Lieberman might win. The Lieberman remark was a joke by the way. Ha, ha.
Posted by: rob payne at October 16, 2006 11:35 PMoh, I have to add:
free and adequate health care for all children......
the adults can go to hell - they got us into this mess, they deserve no health care.
I am 51.
Posted by: Susan at October 16, 2006 11:43 PMThere are no adults, never has been any.
Posted by: rob payne at October 17, 2006 12:16 AMCorrection please: There was one adult until August of 2006. That's when I moved to Canada, eh! Have fun with your pseudo-elections, you crazy Yanks!!!
Posted by: JLaR at October 17, 2006 01:44 AMOh c'mon JLaR if the elections were not real the oil companies would not spend so much money to buy them.
Posted by: rob payne at October 17, 2006 02:00 AMThis is not serious. You need to convince 100 million people, not collect 100 million dollars.
Posted by: abb1 at October 17, 2006 02:02 AMWhy didn't Trippi & Co. just try to raise all that money for Kucinich in 2004? He's right there on all these issues, and has been for years.
I guess seeing how hard it was to find out about this proposal is a measure of how likely it is to succeed.
Posted by: Bob at October 17, 2006 07:06 AMbut he's a vegetarian who won the gandhi award... we dont want a hippy like him anywhere near our Military-Industrial teat
Posted by: almostinfamous at October 17, 2006 11:48 AMI'd like to include a comprehensive voting rights package that includes public campaign funding, vote count assurance and run-off voting. Get this right and many of the other issues will suddenly seem less important.
Posted by: Seen and Heard at October 17, 2006 01:46 PMJoe Trippi doesn't believe that anyone, Democrat or not, can win on this platform. He's not going to pursue it or back those Dems who are actually following it. Joe Trippi, whether he realizes it or not, is deeply in love with 'organization'; he's really not so interested in what the organization achieves, other than winning.
Posted by: Aunt Deb at October 17, 2006 04:32 PMC'mon yerself, Rob!
If the elections were real, the electoral college would not be the deciding factor. The popular vote didn't even exist until the 9th or 10th election. This outrageous farcical insult they call 'democracy' is not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution and the time has long passed for the true representative republic to finally emerge.
The point is moot now anyway since the Constitution doesn't exist anymore. The Bush Crime Family is definitely in charge now. Notice that the heroin production has increased mightily also since the anti-drug Taliban was ousted. Oil isn't their only business.
Posted by: JLaR at October 18, 2006 01:35 AMJLaR,
Lighten up, that was supposed to be a joke. Geez.
Posted by: rob payne at October 18, 2006 03:43 AMRob,
What you said was much too true to be considered a real joke. But 'ha, ha, ha' anyway!!!
Posted by: JLaR at October 18, 2006 05:41 AMJLaR,
I am glad you agree that elections are real, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Posted by: rob payne at October 18, 2006 12:35 PMImpeach!
Posted by: Recluse at October 21, 2006 07:03 PM