Jesus fucking Christ. How do we stop them?

And the two who voted against were (natch) Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul.

Somebody wanna tell me again how working our asses off to get a Democratic Congress in would be the first step toward, as many bloggers put it, "unshitting the bed"? I could use a good laugh right now.

BONUS POINTS: tell me how getting our supposedly blessed "electable" betters, the leading (and "electable", don't forget "electable!") Dem Preznitial candidates, into office will seriously-no-really-they're-not-lying-they-mean-it-this-time! stop the BS in Mesopotamia.

Again, I could use a good laugh before I weep for my country.

There will go another one of the prime functioning civil societies of the Middle East. But face it, in a world where Anti-Semitism and Anti-Israeli behavior have been so irreversibly collated, this is going to be a hard situation to reverse...

ARE YOU REALLY TIRED OF IT YET??? Are you really, enough to, say, stop paying for it.
You know the old saying, "Lighting don't strike twice in the same place".

Somehow I'm not convinced going to jail for tax evasion will help, but I'll try it. Thanks, Mr. Meyer. Any other suggestions?

I'm with StO. How do we stop them?

OK, they (the Iranians) are "not trying to make nukes."
What are they trying to do?
How can you tell, other than by what they say?

this is ludicrous on its face.

our BFF Israel's been running an illegal, immoral and murderous occupation of Palestinian territories for 40 years where they herd the Palestinians into open air prisons while stealing their land and resources.

we're running an illegal, immoral, and murderous occupation of Iraq, and an endless and pointless occupation in Afghanistan where we murder lots of Afghan civilians from the air on a daily basis while letting the purported goal of our invasion slip away unharmed.

we support any number of tyrants and despots and we reserve the right to murder anyone in the world or to imprison/torture anyone in the world for as long as we fucking want with no judicial review.

but we're condemning Iran?? who the fuck did they invade and occupy?

bottom line, we have ZERO moral standing to condemn anyone for any goddamn thing.

fuck every douchebag member of the House who voted for this rancid testament to our hubris and hypocricy. if we actually start bombing Iran these assholes will have the blood of possibly millions on their hands.

Ah, those famous first one hundred days in the new House of Representatives and the following 100 hundred days and all the days there after and nothing has been done. Phony bills with exceptions all tantamount to giving Bush a blank check for continuing the rape of the Middle East and now this, the latest and greatest. From the very beginning congress sanctioned the Iraq war and their defenders came up with all manner of excuses, they were afraid of being accused of traitors, they were fooled by tricky old Bush, they could not walk down a hall without bumping into a wall. Please.

But fear not for if Bush does not bomb Iran Hillary certainly will and America will continue down the road of conquering all of creation and remaking it in our image. And if a few capitalists get rich along the way humanity will certainly be better for it. It has fallen on our broad shoulders to carry the weight of the white man’s burden and woe to those who get in our way.

Keep in mind there is no time to waste we must act now for Iran is the source of all ills in the world today and it is imperative we defend ourselves to the bitter end from our intractable enemies. So let us all raise the flag and let out a war hoop and heed the call of justice so that all will tremble at our coming. In the meantime congress will pass a bill making toothpicks legal and other such stuff maybe in the next one hundred days or so.

How can you tell, other than by what they say?

If there were any genuine reason to believe it, it would be on CNN every twenty seconds. A new NIE on Iran has been in the works at this point for years. Yet it hasn't been officially finished and released. The most likely reason for this is that—as Seymour Hersh has reported—the CIA can't actually find any solid evidence Iran has a nuclear weapons program.

That said, I'm sure there are some within the Iranian leadership who at least want to keep the option open. And there are also certainly others who definitely don't want to develop nuclear weapons. Speaking of Iran as "they" as though they're a monolith is a mistake to start with.

StO: I would suggest calling your Congressional Representative FIRST and discuss ANY concerns you may have and tie those concerns to the matter of YOUR TAXES. After all IT DOES NO GOOD IF CONGRESS DOESN'T KNOW. (your relationship to YOUR REPRESENTATIVE may well keep you out of some trouble. Such a condition HAS HELPED ME before to wall off troublemakers.)

StO: As far as the "nuts and bolts" of your TAX situation, of course, I have no answer as to what your options are but GOOD LUCK AND SUCCESS, Brother or Sister as the case may be.

I feel like monkey-in-the-middle here. What are you trying to say, Eleanor and Santa? I thank you for this review lesson in Israeli history, but I am confused why it was delivered. I must certainly be a dim bulb.

So, Iran isn't a "they." Some Iranian may want this, others that. We just don't know.
But what do we know about their atomic power program? No tea leaves to read to figure out where it's heading?
Could it be the right sees too much there, and the left too little?

No royal or other "we" for me. I was referring to what "we" in God's country and elsewhere actually know about how those pesky Persians are gonna use their atomic power. Seems, not a helluva lot, leastwise not which bunch of Persians wants one thing, or another group wants another thing. So, I guess with the usual divine guidance, the boss man gonna bomb 'em all. His successor can sort out the clean-up.

donescobar: I suppose we can assume Iran doesn't have "the bomb" at present. A foreign policy based on FACTS OF TODAY would make me feel safer. The Crystal Ball Administration seems to think they can predict the future based on reading the LIES of the past, so I'm reluctant to rest easy.(there's a bottle of whiskey on the shelf, I'm thinking the answer might be there at the very bottom)

Supposed to work for us.
"My country 'tis of thee
Sweet land of felony..."
Myths die hard.

No sireeee, Emil, as we celebrate gummiment of the people, by the people and for the people this Fourth of Juuuulie.

He he he.

Somebody wanna tell me again how working our asses off to get a Democratic Congress in would be the first step toward, as many bloggers put it, "unshitting the bed"? I could use a good laugh right now.

Made you feel good for a while, didn't it?

You just want too much out of life. Celebrate the existential absurdity with glee; not chagrin.

There's still a long way to fall before it gets better. We need to be disgusted/contemptuous of both parties equally, and -- we're slowly getting there. But it IS a slow process, and being typically American, you can't delay your gratification. You expect everything in your lifetime.

I WISH Iran had nukes, I truly do. I'd really like to see the Iranian people safe from our government's depredations.

As a daughter of a WWII veteran, raised on tales of the evilness of Hitler, it is profoundly painful to find myself living in the Fourth Reich.

sw

Don't get in a hurry. The century's just starting, and were in for another 100 years of more STALINS AND HITLERS. We're just so good at installing puppet governments, that WE GOT ONE OF OUR VERY OWN. Ten years down the road, you'll look back and say " the good ole dayz. we were just gettin' started then. was a cakewalk, not like now, kids".

Aww... where did my comment go?

How have you guys not killed yourselves out of fear yet?