Once you find someone useful with low self esteem, you can abuse and degrade them. They'll confuse attention with love.

I'd guess that applies to groups of people as well.

C-SPAN seems to be comedy gold, Jon. Comedy G-O-L-D. I wonder what else they might be hiding on that station.

FELLOW LUCYIANS, we have our Charlie Brown.

Well, once Kristol said we wouldn't betray the Kurds, their fate was sealed, under that law of nature that states that Bill Kristol is Always Wrong.

They are just a bunch of TRAITORS and they're gonna betray YOU too. (Nan 1-202-225-0100)

Yeah, please link to your "We are the Kurds" piece with Lucy and the football.

Would it be an inconvenience to provide a brief timeline, so we can research the events outselves. (Re the Kurds, betrayals of same)

Thanks, if it's too much trouble, no worries.

Yeah, well everyone hates the Kurds. Saddam hated them, so for awhile we didn't hate them because we liked Saddam, who hated Iran, even though Iran hated the Kurds too. But because Iran hated the Kurds, we liked them, even though Saddam liked them. And Turkey hated them and Turkey is our friend. But then Saddam hated the Kurds and we hated Saddam and the Kurds hated Saddam and Iran hated the Kurds, so we told the Kurds, "go ahead, rebel. We'll protect you." But then we remembered that we hated the Kurds because Turkey is our friend and maybe we will need to fly from Turkey to bomb Iraq and Iran who we hate, even though they hate each other and the Kurds.

So, Saddam killed a lot of them which made us like the Kurds because they were dead and it was all Saddam's fault and Bill Kristol could accurately say "Saddam must be removed because he used WMD against his own people!!!" even though we hated the Kurds too. Then, the fucking Kurds made it so we couldn't fly over Turkey and we hate them again because the PKK are communist terrorists. But they have oil and hate Saddam and Iran and they have oil. Fuck the Turks!! But we are allies of the Turks who hate commies and terrorists and the PKK and they really hate Kurds.

So, there you have it. Everybody hates the Kurds. Even Bill Kristol.

...and the PKK and they really hate Kurds.

So, there you have it. Everybody hates the Kurds. Even Bill Kristol.

Man, that's as entertaining as a wikipedia entry, but better. Huzzah!

Well, at least we can't be accused of inconsistency!

I believe that it was the Turkish Kurds who carried out the Armenian genocide.

If the US lets Turkey bomb the Kurds who have been doing operations in Turkey, does that mean that Iran gets to bomb the Kurds who are doing operations in Iran?

And is the US going to dump the later group anytime soon, or keep on funding and arming them, since, after all, they are on our side against the Iranians?

(boy, once you get into covert and overt killing sprees, life gets complicated......)

oh more nonsense. Jesus fucking christ, you ar an idiot. First of all, the US has the right to betray anyone if it suits the national interest. Second, the Kurds have benefited immensely from US action in the region, the fact that the Turkish army incursed a few km into Kurdistan is hardly a big deal. The Iraqi Kurds have no incentive to take action agaist the KDD, but probably little real onjection if Turkey does. Kurdistan was another place I thought about working in, and I stil plan a trip soon. But the noble Kurds are a nasty bunch. One think none of you clods knows, but I do, is that the majority of Armenians killed during WW1 were killed by their Kurdish neighbors who wanted their land, not by ottoman troops.

Oh and I spell werkers such deliberately, you morons.

oh, and Professor Schwartz, I would love to know, by your count, which seven betrayals there are. Ugh, how do manage to write such empty blather, and yet come off so smug? I must say, that is the source of my macabre fascination with this ste, along with those of professor beyerstien and Professor Harris. Perkins is sometimea fucking idiot too, but at least he can draw, and he does have a talent for satire, even if he's a bit of a one-trick pony. " That Fox guy is a hypocrite" "Cheney bad" and that's about it.

Oh, and a correction, one of you sort of knows at least one element of the regfion's history.

"Whether their support is active or passive is irrelevant, for there are no acceptable levels of support for terror"

As Professor Yksmohc might rail, there the Weekly Standard goes again endorsing attacks on Washington...

"how do manage to write such empty blather, and yet come off so smug?"

Hahahahahahahahaha....

xyz? milorad? I really hope there aren't two of these assholes..

Which reminds me of a joke:
xyz walks into a bar. He says to the bartender, "Give me a martini, you moron."

Funny, no?

I must say, that is the source of my macabre fascination with this ste, along with those of professor beyerstien and Professor Harris. Perkins is sometimea fucking idiot too, but at least he can draw, and he does have a talent for satire, even if he's a bit of a one-trick pony.

Ah - so, xyz/milorad the hillbilly, who apparently spent Friday night deep in the moonshine jug, is fixated on Tom Tomorrow's site and anyone listed as a co-blogger.

I'm guessing he's been building up a head of steam over Sparky for some time: "Everyone knows penguins can't talk! And they don't wear sunglasses! What a moronic clod! I'VE LIVED IN ANTARCTICA! I WOULD KNOW! UNLIKE YOU PROVINCIAL MORONS!"

This is really lame of me, but I was curious to see what googling "milorad bunnies" would turn up (googling "xyz bunnies" just gets this site) as I'm fascinated by people with the drive and ambition needed to routinely post insults to minor blogs. And lo and behold xyz/milorad is indeed some sort of professional troll who seems to have been previously focused on feminist blogs.

Though I should add that my earlier theory that he is some sort of elaborate chatterbot has some definite compelling evidence as some of the posts are basically verbatim.

I love the Penguin Cartoons. xyz=milorad???

Perhaps they're just both from Quebec?

I had forgotten about the Iranians bombing Iraq in 2006. There's so much that goes on in that little country of Iraq, all of it horrible.

But, if the US is going to let Turkey kill off the PKK, does that mean the US support for the PKK on the Iranian side will stop?

I like the idea that 'al Qaeda did a small incursion into Manhattan' although really they only incursed (is that a word?) into a few buildings.

To be fair, milorad has some point in what he said. I don't think the US could really have leaned on Turkey all that much to just suck up PKK attacks in their territory and not retaliate, and frankly I don't think that Ankara would have paid Washington any heed in that case, anyway. It also in a way makes sense for the US to give Ankara intel on PKK positions if they want Turkey to conduct its incursion quickly and successfully and with a minimum of civilian casualties. I don't think the Kurdish provincial government is very well pleased but I doubt they had the will or power to contain the PKK themselves, so it was pretty inevitable that Turkey would intervene. I don't think the US had any good choices here, but it isn't "betraying the Kurds" in the sense of "Turkey occupying Iraqi Kurdistan" would be. Well, probably not. Not yet, anyway.
However, Bill Kristol is still a cretin, which is doubtlessly the point of this not-exactly-rigorous blog post in the first place, no?