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June 11, 2012
Ummm...Suffering...
Here's the title of a recent Eschaton post about the latest bank bailout, this time in Spain, and the massive government spending cuts that will be imposed to pay for it: "Purified By The Promise Of Suffering For Other People."
This is an old, old emotion for our overlords. John Kenneth Galbraith covered it in his 1977 book The Age of Uncertainty:
The effects of the Great Depression spread, and they spread around the world. The richer the country, the more advanced its industry, the worse, in general, the slump. …The first solution that occurred to statesmen was to propose tightening of belts, acceptance of hardship, resort to patience. Few can believe that suffering, especially by others, is in vain. Anything that is disagreeable must surely have beneficial economic effects.
And here's something else Galbraith wrote in the same book:
People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage. Intellectual myopia, often called stupidity, is no doubt a reason. But the privileged also feel that their privileges, however egregious they may seem to others, are a solemn, basic, God-given right. The sensitivity of the poor to injustice is a trivial thing compared with that of the rich.
The Age of Uncertainty actually originated as a show for the BBC. You might not be surprised to learn that Margaret Thatcher did everything she could to stop them from broadcasting it, but the BBC didn't give in, which is pretty impressive. God knows PBS would have buckled in three seconds, in the extremely unlikely event they ever produced something like it in the first place.
—Jon Schwarz
Posted at June 11, 2012 10:49 AMto be fair, today's BBC would also have buckled in three seconds. after blair got the beeb's head during the doctor kelly/'sexed-up dossier' affair, the BBC has been positively american in its establishment mouthpieceness.
Posted by: benjoya at June 11, 2012 10:56 AMIn the past decade I've noticed a convergence of elite media. I see no discernible difference among PBSNPRNYTBBC.
It's a single medium preaching (in one version of the English language or another) the supremacy of the Anglo-Saxon iteration of Neo-Liberalism.
The same "pundits" appear on this dreary PBSNPRNYTBBC merry-go-round.
Whee.....
Posted by: Metro99 at June 11, 2012 12:08 PMThey wouldn't be priveleged unless God wanted them to be priveleged, and the rest wouldn't be poor for the same reason, don't you know. My fabulous new 150 foot yacht is God's way of saying "Attaboy!" Divine rights and all that, what?
Posted by: Leo deGrance at June 11, 2012 12:15 PMDumpster diving at closing time behind the KFC, hoping the line ain't too long. What a world! Crazy sure, but the kids get hungry and gotta eat.
Posted by: Mike Meyer at June 11, 2012 01:03 PMMargaret Thatcher did not come into office as PM until 1979. If the Age of Uncertainly originated as a BBC show and came out in 1977, it would be hard for her to prevent its being shown. Is there more to the chronology that i'm missing?
Posted by: derek at June 11, 2012 01:18 PMMargaret Thatcher did not come into office as PM until 1979. If the Age of Uncertainly originated as a BBC show and came out in 1977, it would be hard for her to prevent its being shown. Is there more to the chronology that i'm missing?
Posted by: derek at June 11, 2012 01:33 PMMargaret Thatcher did not come into office as PM until 1979. If the Age of Uncertainly originated as a BBC show and came out in 1977, it would be hard for her to prevent its being shown. Is there more to the chronology that i'm missing?
Posted by: derek at June 11, 2012 01:33 PMMargaret Thatcher was the leader of the opposition party in 1977, as Labour was in power at that time. Per Wikipedia, "The leader of the British Conservative Party, Margaret Thatcher, and Keith Joseph objected to the screening of the series by the BBC as they perceived it too biased for a state-run TV station."
Posted by: logorrhea at June 11, 2012 01:38 PMlogorrhea,
You responded to one of derek's questions, but what about the other two?
Posted by: Prince John at June 11, 2012 01:52 PMI'm struck by this line, "People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." Although it is off topic, this is what I've been saying for some time about global warming: isn't even a small risk of catastrophe worth cutting today's profits by the smallest amount?
I had thought that this was a good argument for conservatives, but I'm afraid Galbraith's quote is too true.
a number of episodes or episode segments of the bbc show are listed as available on youtube
Posted by: mistah 'MICFiC' charley, ph.d. at June 11, 2012 02:14 PMPBS did, actually, decide not to pick up a similar show, Moyers & Company, just last year.
While Bill Moyers is again on many PBS stations, his show is not being distributed by the network. They reportedly didn't have an available time slot for it. That's a nice way of saying, take your commie ideas and get stuffed.
Posted by: makarov__ at June 11, 2012 02:52 PMAgreed that Auntie Beeb is a pale shadow of her former great self. And it is the fault of craven scum in both the Tory and 'Labour' parties -- and most of all the utterly despicable gobshite, Tony Blaire.
Posted by: NomadUK at June 11, 2012 04:30 PMspecifically,
"Anything that is disagreeable must surely have beneficial economic effects."
if it is disagreeable to people other than themselves and their families. in a (masochistic) way, it's kind of comforting to know that the 1% are exactly the same, the world over. the same people who happily support wars, that other people are actually fighting and dying in.
Posted by: cpinva at June 11, 2012 07:32 PMkeep banging this drum. It will be heard.
Posted by: angler at June 11, 2012 08:15 PMThe late 70s, yes, I remember it well. That's when PBS gave us the wonderful series Free To Choose, hosted by Milton Friedman and his Shit-Eating Grin.
Posted by: elgin at June 11, 2012 09:44 PMIf money is life force, and the politician/capitalist is the ego/nervous system/christ figure... what am I?
Posted by: Lewis at June 11, 2012 10:09 PMThey wouldn't be privileged unless they were hardwired to be privileged! It's in their genes!
Posted by: Duncan at June 11, 2012 11:17 PMDuncan, where does he say that? You seem to be responding still to that stupid post from like two years ago where he generalized about male behavior in terms of a genetic imperative to reproduce. I agreed with you about that one, but I don't see any of that here.
Posted by: Save the Oocytes at June 12, 2012 01:29 AMStO, I didn't mean that Jon was saying it. But as you know, belief in the genetic superiority of the privileged is widespread, especially among the privileged. I was just saying it before someone else said it.
Actually, I was thinking of a stupid post (by someone else, as I recall) even longer ago which argued that human beings are hardwired for imperialism or something. Not that there's anything wrong with having a long memory.
Posted by: Duncan at June 12, 2012 09:48 AMIts just GREED for power and money. Nothing to do with genetics or much of anything else other than the stupidity that goes with it. Nothing more, nothing less. GREED always harms society in general, just as much as Stupid. Those less lucky PAY the most and SUFFER the most.
Posted by: Mike Meyer at June 12, 2012 12:11 PMDuncan, I misread you. I guess when I saw "hardwired" I jumped to the description of their "behavior," rather than thinking you were joking that the social relationship of privilege itself is hardwired, which is, I think, an even harder sell in this day and age. After all, this great nation is a meritocracy, where the deserving pull themselves up by their bootstraps to rightfully oppress others.
Posted by: Save the Oocytes at June 12, 2012 04:58 PMStO, you might also notice that I was reacting not to anything Jon wrote, but to a comment by Leo DeGrance.
Posted by: Duncan at June 13, 2012 12:41 AMThanks for passing that on. La plus ca change, etc.
Posted by: Batocchio at June 13, 2012 04:28 AM"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
This is why, when they act this way (it's not actually *universal*, merely 99% of the elite), they need to be completely destroyed.
Posted by: Nathanael at June 14, 2012 05:46 AM